Re: Plans for git (was: Please check the current beta git conversions)

From: Warner Losh <imp_at_bsdimp.com>
Date: Fri, 4 Sep 2020 22:05:36 -0600
Steve,

I was wrong to freak out so badly at your suggestion. I can give you an
explanation for why but it was wrong for me to do so.

I thought that the doc was better than it was and so I couldn't understand
and flashed to anger rather than listening.

So even so, my tone is well below the standard I try to set for myself: so
it was doubly wrong. I've been doing it a lot this year, guess I'm not
coping as well as I thought with the times. It's no excuse, though, and I'm
sorry.

I felt bad about over-reacting so I came back to things fresh today. On
fresh reading, your suggestions are good ones. Very similar to the ones I
came to after spending some quality time trying to edit the document you'd
offered the suggestion to. The content and focus isn't quite right there. I
spent a couple hours trying to fix it, only to find myself in a dead end I
couldn't puzzle my way out of before quitting for the day... I'll give it
another try over the weekend or next week.

So please accept my apology for being a jerk, yelling at you in a truly
unprofessional way and screaming when I should really have been listening.
Again, anything I say by way of explanation doesn't justify it at all.

Warner

On Wed, Sep 2, 2020 at 11:11 AM Warner Losh <imp_at_bsdimp.com> wrote:

>
>
> On Wed, Sep 2, 2020 at 10:47 AM Steve Kargl <
> sgk_at_troutmask.apl.washington.edu> wrote:
>
>> On Wed, Sep 02, 2020 at 12:14:08PM -0400, Ed Maste wrote:
>> > On Wed, 2 Sep 2020 at 02:31, Steve Kargl
>> > <sgk_at_troutmask.apl.washington.edu> wrote:
>> > >
>> > > > A short intro on git for svn users:
>> > > > https://hackmd.io/ML5TSl8mQ5-27B5eqDf7YA?view
>> > > >
>> > >
>> > > ROTFL.  From the "short intro", 2nd sentence.
>> > >
>> > > New committers are assumed to already be familiar with the basic
>> > > operation of Git.  If not, start by reading the Git Book.
>> >
>> > This doc started as a direct translation of the Subversion primer,
>> > which has as its first sentence:
>> > > New committers are assumed to already be familiar with the basic
>> operation of Subversion. If not, start by reading the Subversion Book.
>> >
>> > As with the Subversion primer the doc is intended to provide a quick
>> > reference for day-to-day commands, but not act as a reference or
>> > introduction to the entire theory of operation of the associated VCS.
>>
>> Like GCC, which did the svn to git dance at start of the year,
>> FreeBSD is throwing away a decade+ of corporate knowledge of
>> working with svn and /usr/src.  What is needed is a succinct
>> translation of the most common svn commands translated to git.
>>
>> Checking out /usr/src as user_at_freebsd.org
>>
>>   svn checkout svn+ssh://user_at_svn.freebsd.org/base/head /usr/src
>>
>>   git ...
>>
>> Checking out /usr/src without freebsd.org account
>>
>>   svn checkout https://svn.freebsd.org/base/head ${HOME}/freebsd/src
>>
>>   git ...
>>
>> Creating diff against updated head.
>>
>>   svn update
>>   svn diff > patch.diff
>>
>>   git ...
>>
>> Adding a new file
>>
>>   svn add /usr/src/libm/msun/src/_s_sinpi.c
>>
>>   git ...
>>
>> Committing a change to /usr/src
>>
>>   svn update
>>   svn diff <files-to-commit> | more (everyone does one last check, right?)
>>   svn commit <files-to-commit>
>>
>>   git ...
>>
>
> This is an insultingly stupid comment to make. We don't need people to say
> the obvious.
>
> This sort of comment isn't helpful. People will just ignore you if you
> make too many of them like it.
>
> Warner
>
>
>
Received on Sat Sep 05 2020 - 02:05:49 UTC

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