On Wed, 2 Apr 2003, Sheldon Hearn wrote: > On (2003/04/02 21:48), Bruce Evans wrote: > > > > Some of us have been waiting for that behaviour for a long time (long > > > before you started working on ULE). > > > > Er, this is the normal behaviour in FreeBSD-3.0 through FreeBSD-4.8, > > so you shouldn't have waited more than negative 4 years for it :-). > > The strict implementation of this behaviour in these releases causes > > priority inversion problems, but the problems apparently aren't very > > important. The scaling of niceness was re-broken in -current about 3 > > years ago to "fix" the priority inversion problems. > > I should have realized that "a long time" would mean different things to > different people, with respect to HEAD. I remember being involved in a > flamefest on this issue a few years back. You were involved too. :-) > > However, are you sure the "nice 20 only gets unwanted CPU" behaviour is > actually what you get in RELENG_4 (as opposed to your heavily patched > version)? I tested RELENG_4 while replying :-). I don't have any significant patches in it. "nice 20 only gets unwanted CPU" was the intended behaviour, and it still seems to work. I found it hard to see it working since I used 2.5-months-noncurrent -current utilities. I use some hacks to unbreak things like test(1) using a syscall that doesn't exist in RELENG_4, but the hacks don't extend to making ps or top work, so I couldn't use them to see what the processes were doing. Normally I use simple tests like: %%% for i in 0 20 do nice -$i sh -c "while :; do echo -n;done" & done top -o time %%% to debug scheduling of long-running (cpu hog) processes. If niceness is working right, then the priority of the nice +0 should never reach that of the nice +20 process (actually the actual priorities (actual = displayed + PZERO) mod 4). You can normally see what is happening by watching top for a while and predict what will/should happen with some practice. BruceReceived on Wed Apr 02 2003 - 02:27:54 UTC
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