On Wed, Sep 2, 2009 at 8:39 PM, James Butler <sweetnavelorange_at_gmail.com>wrote: > 2009/9/3 Nick Hibma <nick_at_van-laarhoven.org>: > >> What is irrelevant is subjective... I mean does the average user really > >> need to see anything in dmesg? Please don't change agp_i810.c. A > >> verbose boot is incredibly noisy and rarely needed for debugging > >> anything except the most deep rooted of issues. > > > > Please state arguments instead of this 'I think it is useful'. That's not > > going to cut it. If you feel strongly about the info that is being > produced, > > an option would be to produce a (tested!) patch that combines more > > information on one line as a compromise. > > > > FreeBSD has historically been producing very limited output on dmesg. > Linux > > is very noisy (ever noticed the copyright notices right in the middle of > > your list of PCI devices?). Even they have decided that they should hide > > this behind coloured 'ok/failed' texts in some distributions. > > This seems like an important distinction - the information which needs > to be available with dmesg and the information best shown to the user > at startup are not necessarily the same. The hypothetical "average > user" probably wouldn't care if there were *no* kernel messages shown > on startup. The Xubuntu box I'm writing this from shows only GRUB > messages before the login prompt on tty1, and only service startup > messages on tty8 (not to suggest that FreeBSD ought to be more like > Ubuntu...). > > IOW, why bother painting it at all? Plain galvanized steel is very > durable, and quite attractive when kept clean ;-) > > -James Butler > Doesn't the 'boot_mute' (loader) environment variable do just that? >From the man page: boot_mute All console output is suppressed when console is muted. In a running system, the state of console muting can be manipulated by the conscontrol(8) utility. - JustinReceived on Wed Sep 02 2009 - 23:14:33 UTC
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