Re: shells/bash port, add a knob which symlinks to /bin/bash ?

As a slight distraction from the topic, is this actually possible in 
general? I'm thinking in particular of ports that install kernel 
modules. Since LOCALBASE may be (and very often is) a different file 
system from /, such modules cannot be accessible to loader and so can't 
be loaded in early boot. This is potentially a problem for wireless 
driver firmware modules, for example.
-Nathan

On 09/12/14 14:38, Bryan Drewery wrote:
> "No" (as portmgr).
>
> Ports should not be touching the base system like this. Let's NOT go
> backwards and add a /bin/bash. In fact the /usr/bin/perl one will be
> removed soon as well.
>
> If we can actually eliminate ports touching /usr and / (not including
> /usr/local and /var) then we gain a very large memory optimization for
> package building by being able to ro null-mount these to the build jails.
>
> There's no reason for bash (and perl) to be exceptions to the 24000
> other ports that install to /usr/local/bin. I can think of dozens of
> other ports that will fall into the same arguments being made here, but
> it does not mean it is the right thing for FreeBSD.
>
> If you want to install the symlink on your system feel free to do it. I
> install a static bash to /bin/bash on mine and only because I prefer
> bash shell and want it in / for single-user mode. That's my personal
> choice though.
>
> The proper fix is to fix scripts to be portable and use #! /usr/bin/env
> bash rather than /bin/bash.
>
> We install all packages to PREFIX=/usr/local by default. Why should a
> bin symlink be an exception? There's no suggestion for symlinking
> includes or libraries which also hit users often.
>
> On 9/12/2014 4:12 PM, Craig Rodrigues wrote:
>> Hi,
>>
>> In the last 3 jobs that I have worked at, there have been
>> a mix of Linux machines and FreeBSD machines.
>> When using an NIS or LDAP environment where
>> there is a single login across multiple machines, it is useful to
>> have a single shell setting.
>>
>> Since Linux and MacOS X have "/bin/bash" as the shell,
>> in order to get the FreeBSD boxes to play in this environment,
>> I have seen admins do the following on FreeBSD setups:
>>     ln -s /usr/local/bin/bash /bin/bash
>>
>> or
>>
>>     ln /usr/local/bin/bash /bin/bash
>>
>> and then make sure that /etc/shells as:
>> /usr/local/bin/bash
>> /bin/bash
>>
>> Can we add an optional knob (turned off by default) which creates this
>> symlink
>> and updates /etc/shells?
>>
>> This would help with interoperability of FreeBSD hosts in environments mixed
>> with Linux and MacOS X.
>>
>> --
>> Craig
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