Re: [CFT] packaging the base system with pkg(8)

On Tue, Apr 19, 2016 at 09:15:47PM -0600, Warner Losh wrote:
> 
> > On Apr 19, 2016, at 4:12 PM, Matthew Grooms <mgrooms_at_shrew.net> wrote:
> > 
> > On 4/19/2016 3:09 PM, Poul-Henning Kamp wrote:
> >> As far as I know, nobody is taking the source code or the Makefiles
> >> away, so if somebody doesn't like the system being distributed with
> >> pkg, they can very well roll their own.
> >> 
> >> It's nice to see the level of enthusiasm the FreeBSD project can
> >> muster, I just wish it wasn't always enthusiasm for stopping progress.
> >> 
> > 
> > Maybe I missed an email in this thread, but I don't recall
> > anyone completely rejecting the idea of packaging the base system.
> > What I see is a discussion related to doing it in the best way
> > possible.
> 
> Sadly the tenor and tone of the discussion isn’t one where progress
> is made. The tone has been a bit toxic and demanding, which grinds
> people into dust, rather than motivating them to fix things. You
> might call it a discussion, but it reads to me more as a bunch of
> angry villagers storming the castle. No good can come from that.
> Tone down the outrage by a factor of 100 and try to have the
> conversation again.
> 

As probably the most demotivated person to read through this onslaught
of nonsense, I cannot agree more.

Glen