Re: date(1) default format changed between 10.3 and 11.0-BETA3

Should I open a bug report, or has the problem been noted?

   Mark


On 2016-08-04 04:32, Julian Elischer wrote:
> On 4/08/2016 7:24 AM, Mark Martinec wrote:
>> Is it normal/expected/documented that the date(1) command in 11.0
>> now produces a timestamp in substantially different format
>> in an "en_US.UTF-8" locale (long names, commas, 12 vs. 24h hour time):
>> 
>>   Thursday, August  4, 2016 at 12:50:43 AM CEST
>> vs:
>>   Thu Aug  4 00:52:29 CEST 2016
>> 
> one of those is a bug.  the formats are defined in posix I believe.
> 
>> 
>> Setting LC_TIME does not help:
>> 
>>   $ LC_TIME="C" date
>>   Thursday, August  4, 2016 at 01:13:37 AM CEST
>> 
>> although LC_ALL="C" _does_ help.
>> 
>> 
>> This is funny too, especially regarding commas:
>>   $ LC_ALL="en_GB.UTF-8" date
>>   Thursday  4 August 2016 at 01:16:45 CEST
>>   $ LC_ALL="en_US.UTF-8" date
>>   Thursday, August  4, 2016 at 01:16:54 AM CEST
>> 
>> 
>> The date(1) man page states:
>>   The date utility is expected to be compatible with IEEE Std 1003.2
>>   (“POSIX.2”).
>> What does POSIX.2 say about date(1) following a locale?
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> ======
>> 11.0-BETA3:
>> 
>> $ date
>> Thursday, August  4, 2016 at 12:50:43 AM CEST
>> 
>> $ uname -a
>> FreeBSD xxx.ijs.si 11.0-BETA3 FreeBSD 11.0-BETA3 #0 r303469: Fri Jul 
>> 29 02:27:28 UTC 2016 
>> root_at_releng2.nyi.freebsd.org:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC  amd64
>> 
>> $ locale
>> LANG=
>> LC_CTYPE="en_US.UTF-8"
>> LC_COLLATE="en_US.UTF-8"
>> LC_TIME="en_US.UTF-8"
>> LC_NUMERIC="en_US.UTF-8"
>> LC_MONETARY="en_US.UTF-8"
>> LC_MESSAGES="en_US.UTF-8"
>> LC_ALL=en_US.UTF-8
>> 
>> ======
>> 10.3-RELEASE-p6 :
>> 
>> $ date
>> Thu Aug  4 00:52:29 CEST 2016
>> 
>> $ freebsd-version
>> 10.3-RELEASE-p6
>> 
>> $ uname -a
>> FreeBSD yyy.ijs.si 10.3-RELEASE-p4 FreeBSD 10.3-RELEASE-p4 #0: Sat May 
>> 28 12:23:44 UTC 2016 
>> root_at_amd64-builder.daemonology.net:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC amd64
>> 
>> $ locale
>> LANG=
>> LC_CTYPE="en_US.UTF-8"
>> LC_COLLATE="en_US.UTF-8"
>> LC_TIME="en_US.UTF-8"
>> LC_NUMERIC="en_US.UTF-8"
>> LC_MONETARY="en_US.UTF-8"
>> LC_MESSAGES="en_US.UTF-8"
>> LC_ALL=en_US.UTF-8
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>   Mark