Re: date(1) default format changed between 10.3 and 11.0-BETA3

On 5/08/2016 5:44 AM, Mark Martinec wrote:
> Should I open a bug report, or has the problem been noted?
it's not clear without reading the standard whether the bug is in the 
old or new version.
have you tried other systems? In particular I'd check OSX

sh-3.2$ export LC_CTYPE="en_US.UTF-8"
sh-3.2$ export LC_TIME="en_US.UTF-8"
sh-3.2$ export LC_ALL="en_US.UTF-8"
sh-3.2$ export LC_NUMERIC="en_US.UTF-8"
sh-3.2$ date
Fri Aug  5 12:57:47 AWST 2016

if it IS a bug then yes, file a report with full reproduction steps.

>
>   Mark
>
>
> On 2016-08-04 04:32, Julian Elischer wrote:
>> On 4/08/2016 7:24 AM, Mark Martinec wrote:
>>> Is it normal/expected/documented that the date(1) command in 11.0
>>> now produces a timestamp in substantially different format
>>> in an "en_US.UTF-8" locale (long names, commas, 12 vs. 24h hour 
>>> time):
>>>
>>>   Thursday, August  4, 2016 at 12:50:43 AM CEST
>>> vs:
>>>   Thu Aug  4 00:52:29 CEST 2016
>>>
>> one of those is a bug.  the formats are defined in posix I believe.
>>
>>>
>>> Setting LC_TIME does not help:
>>>
>>>   $LC_TIME="C" date
>>>   Thursday, August  4, 2016 at 01:13:37 AM CEST
>>>
>>> although LC_ALL="C" _does_ help.
>>>
>>>
>>> This is funny too, especially regarding commas:
>>>   $ LC_ALL="en_GB.UTF-8" date
>>>   Thursday  4 August 2016 at 01:16:45 CEST
>>>   $ LC_ALL="en_US.UTF-8" date
>>>   Thursday, August  4, 2016 at 01:16:54 AM CEST
>>>
>>>
>>> The date(1) man page states:
>>>   The date utility is expected to be compatible with IEEE Std 1003.2
>>>   (“POSIX.2”).
>>> What does POSIX.2 say about date(1) following a locale?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> ======
>>> 11.0-BETA3:
>>>
>>> $ date
>>> Thursday, August  4, 2016 at 12:50:43 AM CEST
>>>
>>> $ uname -a
>>> FreeBSD xxx.ijs.si 11.0-BETA3 FreeBSD 11.0-BETA3 #0 r303469: Fri 
>>> Jul 29 02:27:28 UTC 2016 
>>> root_at_releng2.nyi.freebsd.org:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC amd64
>>>
>>> $ locale
>>> LANG=
>>> LC_CTYPE="en_US.UTF-8"
>>> LC_COLLATE="en_US.UTF-8"
>>> LC_TIME="en_US.UTF-8"
>>> LC_NUMERIC="en_US.UTF-8"
>>> LC_MONETARY="en_US.UTF-8"
>>> LC_MESSAGES="en_US.UTF-8"
>>> LC_ALL=en_US.UTF-8
>>>
>>> ======
>>> 10.3-RELEASE-p6 :
>>>
>>> $ date
>>> Thu Aug  4 00:52:29 CEST 2016
>>>
>>> $ freebsd-version
>>> 10.3-RELEASE-p6
>>>
>>> $ uname -a
>>> FreeBSD yyy.ijs.si 10.3-RELEASE-p4 FreeBSD 10.3-RELEASE-p4 #0: Sat 
>>> May 28 12:23:44 UTC 2016 
>>> root_at_amd64-builder.daemonology.net:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC amd64
>>>
>>> $ locale
>>> LANG=
>>> LC_CTYPE="en_US.UTF-8"
>>> LC_COLLATE="en_US.UTF-8"
>>> LC_TIME="en_US.UTF-8"
>>> LC_NUMERIC="en_US.UTF-8"
>>> LC_MONETARY="en_US.UTF-8"
>>> LC_MESSAGES="en_US.UTF-8"
>>> LC_ALL=en_US.UTF-8
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>   Mark
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